Now that I no longer work for the Mudbugs, what will the "fire Musky" crowd use to counter my points when the hue and cry for Musky's head starts
up this season?
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Posts: 5386 (06/29/09 16:49:35) Moderator |
Their ignorance?
Kind of like how they use their personalities as birth control.
If you're not living on the edge - you're taking up too much space.
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Posts: 1395 (06/29/09 17:13:42) 4th Liner |
Don't really know what brought that up outa the blue.....but its a loaded question. When youve already stated openly your close personal friends with
Muscutt....whether you work for the team or not becomes irrelevant. Unless i missed it i havnt seen anybody on his case since the new ownership was announced
and it was stated he would remain coach. Will it come later.....probably.........but i think at the moment everyone is just trying to bask in the fact we still
have a team.
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Posts: 1337 (06/29/09 17:38:38) Rookie |
Well Hank, I guess it depends. If we get the same type of play, players, bull ca ca, and results, I would imagine we will all still have our same legitimate
gripes about Musky. Personally I don't expect things to change, but who knows, it's a new season, new team (I hope) and a new owner. Hopefully Scott
will be held a little more accountable. A performance based pay scale would be beneficial for the organization. X for so many wins. X for winning division. X
for Govoners cup. And X for each game won in the playoffs.
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Posts: 4049 (06/29/09 18:34:20) |
I understand that many of the posters on this board think that the Musky is doing something to keep players from flocking here and can't understand why a
player would choose to play in that hell-hole that is Loveland, CO or the hickville DFW metro-plex. Or have trouble grasping the concept that other teams
actually try to win (especially when playing the Bugs) and that the Bugs aren't going to come out on top every time. Some nights they get beat by a better
team. Some nights Musky gets outcoached. Some nights the bounces just aren't there. Heck there is even the occasional screwing by a ref.
Why so many of y'all insist that a championship is the only measure of a successful baffles me. Maybe I have my head so far up Musky's %!# I am willing to accept an honest effort from a great group of young men almost every single minute of every game. But hey what do I know? I am just a soon to be un-employed bus driver. No, the sky isn't going to fall if Musky leaves the Bugs, I don't recall ever saying that. But I do believe that the list of people that will come in as a replacement and work as hard as Musky and have the success he has had is a very short one indeed. Maybe I am missing something. Wouldn't be the first time. Nor the last. Bull ca ca. Wow chevyman. Guess it is the championship of nothing for you. You must not be very happy with any team you cheer for if anything less than a championship is bull crap. Do you pick one team and stick with them year to year or do you switch to whichever team is winning championships in a given era? I am sure Musky would take your pay scale there Chev. Pay per banner. Good idea. Musky would be one of the highest two or three paid coaches in the league. Guess maybe I am satisfied with having a team on the ice that EVERY single night when the puck is dropped there is a legitimate chance/expectation that our team will come out on top. I would say I aspire to be the truly educated fans that many of you are. But I would be lying. |
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Posts: 1735 (06/29/09 19:16:01) |
TELLSITLIKEITIS weote:
Don't really know what brought that up outa the blue.....but its a loaded question. When youve already stated openly your close personal friends with Muscutt....whether you work for the team or not becomes irrelevant. Unless i missed it i havnt seen anybody on his case since the new ownership was announced and it was stated he would remain coach. Will it come later.....probably.........but i think at the moment everyone is just trying to bask in the fact we still have a team. I will say this however......i'll never understand the "chicken little" mentality if heaven forbid the team ever does change coaches. But you also have to remember.....not everyone has their head so far up his A$$ that thier ticklin his tonsils with the top of thier head either.... 
edited to clarify....the above is a general statement not meant for any one particular individual. Great post, tellsit.  I agree with you. I can't understand why this
was just posted out of the blue either. I'm like you. I had just posted on a thread the other night about how things were getting back to how they used to
be. Fans were really getting upbeat about a new season of Mudbug hockey after having Mr. Scott & his wife step up & save our team. Hasn't been
anything bad said about our coach, players or each other for that matter. Maybe someone will hijack this thread & turn it into a "Serve Me A
Beer" thread. Oh Cajun. Where are you. You are without a doubt, the best thread hijacker we have. And as for me. I'm just thankful we will have our team
to cheer for. I've NEVER been on the spoiled side of seeing my hockey team win a Cup. Much less 3. I just enjoy the game & win or lose; they will still
be my team at the end of every season. Just like the Buffalo Sabres.
IS IT OCTOBER YET!!!!! 
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Posts: 1928 (06/29/09 19:20:48) 4th Liner |
I can't understand why this was just posted out of the blue either. conversation on a message board.....how dare he!
if at first you don't succeed, skydiving probably isn't for you.
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Posts: 8656 (06/29/09 19:28:59) |
exactly southern--uhmmm why are any message posted here out of the blue?
Is there a schedule to follow that says when and what can be posted?
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Posts: 4052 (06/29/09 20:29:13) |
TigerBug1 wrote:Really? Must have been someone hi-jacking you S/N this past season. |
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Posts: 1737 (06/29/09 20:38:20) |
I'm just glad we have a team. Bottom line. Tellsit summed up everything else just fine.
IS IT OCTOBER YET???
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Posts: 8657 (06/29/09 20:58:43) |
if he has to follow that pay scale formula-will everyone cry when he gets rid of a fan favorite who is not performing (scoring goals or playing defense or
stopping pucks)? I mean those are the guys PLAYING the game and not getting the wins needed for him to get a paycheck right?
And yes-right now people are happy to just have hockey back, but after the first week of the season-I wonder how many of the "Fire Musky" crowd will be climbing back on the soapbox-and how many of the "I trust Scott" crowd will venture to the other side of the fence-AGAIN. I swear it seems as though some of the people on this board are related to John Kerry and flip-flop-and not just on this board, but on other boards as well (say one thing here and something else on other boards).
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Posts: 4053 (06/29/09 21:01:52) |
OGR, that was the point of my original post. Of course you probably picked up on that already.
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Posts: 8658 (06/29/09 21:24:24) |
got it FC-not hard to figure out. How long has Bobby Cox been in Atlanta-and how many rings does he have? It's that 2 sides of the fence and grass being
green thing-or bird in the hand/2 in the bush?
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Posts: 1338 (06/29/09 21:30:26) Rookie |
Ok, Hank. What p1sses me off is HE says we play 64 to win 12. We bench Cash when he carries us to the playoffs as soon as the playoffs start. We SMOKE the
league 2 years ago and then look like a junior club when it's playoff time. Same thing, to me, last year. We squeak into the playoffs last year with the
same results (not counting the play-in series). What about changing lines all season so no one can gel. Thank goodness HE brought in Angel. Look at the players
who left because they got roughed up. Forbie? He Had no business taking up roster space. IMO just too much/many mistakes. I know, I know, I'm wrong to feel
that way because we've won the cup since the merger. Look at the BIG picture. Is the league THAT much better or have we, as a team, been going backwards?
Really makes me wonder why Madden pulled the plug. I'm not alone in my perception that Scott has created. I'm not wrong to expect better than what we
have had the last three years. In my opinion, HE is full of $hit. Don't talk big if you can't deliver. Getting swept after winning the Govoners cup,
then the same lack-luster performance the following year has, frankly, chapped my a$$! I would love to see improvement every year and for the past three
we've gone backwards. Maybe when I lose my passion, I'll quit supporting the Bugs. Bobby Cox and the Braves??? Cellar dwellers in the NL east. Great
point!
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Posts: 4055 (06/29/09 22:06:03) |
I don't enjoy the lack of playoff success anymore than you. But I guess the question in my mind is should we, given the level of competition, truly EXPECT
a championship run every season? If we had the talent laden roster of the Eagles I would say yes. But we don't. I, and many people I have spoken to in
various cities around the league think the level of play has improved that much. I could be mistaken, but I honestly don't believe that we were as talented
as the Eagles or Brahmas this year. I have my thoughts on why that is, obviously many don't agree. Hopefully with the new ownership we have a roster laden
with AHL/NHL talent like some of the other teams.
Two years ago there is absolutely no excuse for that horrendous effort in the play-offs. Last year, lot of reasons for losing to the Brahmas. Main one being that we got matched up against the only team that had a winning record against us that year. This year the season ending loss to Corpus was the game that killed us, matched us up against the Eagles, whom we played very well against but couldn't solve their goaltender. I too wonder why Madden pulled the plug. At the end of the season party he was gung-ho back on the wagon going to be involved with all aspects of the franchise. A couple of weeks later he is selling the team in ten days or closing it down. Something happened, what, I have no idea. The Braves is exactly my point. We have never been a cellar dweller. Hopefully we never are. But if we end up like the Braves I will join in the chorus calling for change. In my opinion, we get an honest return on our investment from the Mudbugs year in and year out. If we had the resources of the Eagles I would be front and center with everyone else saying the Bugs have underperformed. But I guess I just am very thankful that Musky has been able to put teams on the ice pretty much every year that at least stand a chance of winning it all. There are many teams in this league, some with a lot more resources, that can't say that. |
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Posts: 8659 (06/29/09 22:18:07) |
the Braves were at one point a dominant team-made it to the playoffs almost every year-yet don't think they won very may championships. Now they are at the
bottom of the barrell, but Bobby Cox is still there-wonder why. How about Joe P at Penn State? The man has been head coach there longer than most of us have
been alive.
All I want from Scott or whoever coaches whatever team (in whatever sport) I root for-is a team full of players that give 100% effort everytime they are out there playing the game. Losses are easy to handle when you see heart and effort, and though I will take an ugly, weak win, I like hustle and effort more. You lose some you should win and win a few you should lose-happens in every sport.
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Posts: 1339 (06/30/09 06:49:04) Rookie |
Ogr, I agree 100%! I just haven't seen as many 100% effort games as I feel we should be seeing. One other thing, Hank, I'm am so sick of hearing,
"it's the refs fault!" That is nothing but an excuse for getting your a$$ kicked. Also, the prospect of the play in series against RMR wasn't
a problem until that what we were facing. Then it was the "stupid" leagues fault.
Fastcars said: "Some nights they get beat by a better team. Some nights Musky gets out-coached. Some nights the bounces just aren't there. Heck there is even the occasional screwing by a ref." Do you remember the poll about which excuse was gonna be used? That was in response to the BARRAGE of excuses. If we get beat by a better team, so be it. If you get out-coached, so be it. I can understand the bounces, but the ref can't affect that many games. Admit fault when you get out-coached or out-played. I would have WAY more respect for the man if he handled loses in a professional manner and accepted responsibility and accountability.
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Posts: 8661 (06/30/09 08:47:54) |
I think that is why fc said the "occassional". I agree there are nights the refs get blammed when it is obvious that the team just sucked.
And the 100% effort-Scot can coach the games-he can not control the execution of the game plan unless he starts cutting players not performing-of course that leads to fans crying because their favorite player gets cut or traded-and whose opinion is it that counts on performance/filling their role? And I also understand that players play sick/hurt or just have a bad game-and I can take that into consideration. BUT there have been nights where the refs did suck and in a tight game-one call can influence the game-we all know that.
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Posts: 1340 (06/30/09 08:55:07) Rookie |
There was an UNmentionable coach in the SEC who had players focus on their job. What ever position they played, they knew what was expected and on every play
they were expected to give 100%. If that mentality is followed, then perfection is achieved. If we have players or "fan favorites" that don't
pull their own, bench 'em or cut 'em. I'm just telling why I get so pi$$ed off. Scott brings in these players and he should hold them accountable.
If he doesn't then it's on him.
Edited to add, (this came in an email today) One of the things about leaders is that they take responsibility for what happens on their watch. They are less concerned to point fingers than to make constructive changes in what is happening. They want things to be better, and change for the better doesn't happen when somebody is more concerned to fix the blame than to improve the situation. The legendary Paul "Bear" Bryant coached the University of Alabama's football team to winning season after winning season - including some national championships. He once explained his theory of how to build a successful team. "I'm just a plowhand from Arkansas," said Coach Bryant, "but I have learned how to hold a team together - how to lift some men up, how to calm others down, until finally they've got one heartbeat together, a team. There's just three things I'd ever say; 'If anything goes bad, I did it; if anything goes semi-good, then we did it; and if anything goes real good, then you did it.' That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you." That's also part of the essence of all leadership. Whether it's in athletics, on the job, or at home, leaders are quick to give credit to others and to shoulder responsibility for problems.
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Posts: 111 (06/30/09 12:52:53) |
Now that I no longer work for the Mudbugs, what will the "fire Musky" crowd use to counter my points when the hue and cry for Musky's head starts up this season? Ask Tigerbug, she is the leader of the Muscutt headhunters. Just watch out when she goes into reverse and starts loving him again. Usually happens 4 or 5 times a season. |
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Posts: 861 (06/30/09 20:45:25) Arena Security |
what goes around comes around! Welcome to the same ole merry go round, Chevy. You should have put your money where your mouth is, and you could have coached,
played, managed the team all on your own, as you know EXACTLY the way it is to be done.
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